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Jingle Bells was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Upsot?

The article says, "The double-meaning of 'upsot' was thought humorous ...."

What is the other meaning? It's explained that "'Upsot' is an alternative poetic version of 'upset'" but that's only one meaning. Perhaps this was meant to indicate that the use of "upsot" rather than the standard word "upset" was thought humorous? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Upset means both being unhappy and being knocked over 2.24.5.3 (talk) 13:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason not to include Kyna Hamill's research on the song?

Article title is “The story I must tell”: “Jingle Bells” in the Minstrel Repertoire. Available here for example. Includes lots of detailed research as to the probably origins of the song, its use in mistrel performances, the culture around sleighing at the time, etc. 210.166.55.242 (talk) 06:55, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At a quick look -- I heven't read the piece yet -- the source looks fine and the author's credentials seem good. I wouldn't overwhelm this article with a lot of incidental stuff about "the culture of sleighing at the time" or minstrelsy, just enough to give context. Take a look at Sleighing and Minstrel show as other good articles to add to. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph in history section.

The first paragraph in the 'history' section is littered with typo's, grammatical errors and uncited information. It needs addressing. 84.65.251.138 (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it's littered with "typo's", is it? Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What about you won’t mind the cold?

I know for sure there is another incredibly common verse, but I didn’t want to edit the lyrics in case someone disagreed. The verse goes as follows:

You won’t mind the cold;

The robe is thick and warm,

Snow falls on the road

Silvering every form.

The woods are dark and still,

The horse is trotting fast;

He’ll pull the sleigh around the hill

And home again at last!

Note: I've also heard versions where line 5 is sang as “the night is dark and still” rather than the woods, and the horse’s pronouns seem to vary he/she from whoever sings.

Please let me know if you can think of a reason why this shouldn’t be added! I have been able to find one source by searching through old books of mine. It’s a collection of traditional stories, songs and poems called “The Christmas Treasury” published by Kingfisher Books in 1986. There may be more evidence, this is just one source I found (other than people actually singing it in real life.) CitrusSoEpic (talk) 12:07, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If our earliest source for it is 1986, then we have a problem that those lyrics may be under copyright and should not be included. Searching Google Books for "The robe is thick and warm" finds no results before 1991. (In contrast, searching for a line from the original lyrics -- "What fun it is to ride and sing" -- gets me sources back to 1895.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 03:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aussie lyrics

Are the parody Aussie lyrics somehow not copyrighted? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 17:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA

Greetings, everyone. Meghan Trainor's version of "Jingle Bells" is currently charting at number four on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 singles chart in the US. It is expected to enter the main Billboard Hot 100 within the next two weeks, which will make it a needed addition to this topic. I would appreciate the help of major contributors to this article (ping Beyond My Ken) in improving this to good article status.--N Ø 14:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]